>> I went to undergrad.
I went to Temple night school.
I did some part on the main campus.
But I also went to Temple Center City, which was an extraordinary experience.
We had extraordinary professors.
For example, for one of my English courses I had E.L. Doctorow who is a rather famous author.
He was outstanding.
So we had a very rich experience going in the evening school, which gave me the time to work.
I actually worked in a law firm during that period
because I knew that's what I wanted to do.
And then as I was leaving that job, I graduated and was going to go to law school fulltime,
I had a great position offered to me at a law firm.
And wound up, you know, Temple is a terrific way to get a great law school education
and to work during the day and continue in my profession.
So by the time I graduated law school, I already had those four years of undergrad --
I'm sorry, five years of undergrad at night and four years -- it seems like a long time.
And it is.
But I graduated when I -- I guess I was 27.
And I had a lot of experience already and just kind of sailed in.
And what happened was I then, you know,
practiced ashore for the time before I started my company because that's really where I,
at that point, I knew I wanted to go.