>> Well, I work as I said with a bunch of PhD level guys that are all brilliant,
and so that's really a lot of fun.
I do a lot of recruiting too; I didn't' mention that, but you know trying to recruit people
and retain the people we have in Silicon Valley.
And so it's a lot of fun working with those folks and seeing the results that we get.
I've enjoyed programming since I first tried it when I was
in high school, and it's kind of addicting.
I think the hardest part is being in a big company is that there's bureaucracy,
and that there's-- it's a mature company and so there are constraints on the funding
that we have and that sort of thing; that's the hardest part.
And so but you learn after being there a long time as I have been how to fight that
and how to you know look out for my people and get them what they deserve.