>> All right.
So the skill set that you learn in anthropology, this deep analysis of literature,
also critical listening to people and individuals and observation,
it really does go out into whatever you're doing.
How I use it, though, particularly as a career advisor, one, I have to know what I'm talking
about in terms of careers, right?
And so that means I have to study up on what are some common pathways for people who have a PhD
who are interested in working outside of the academy?
So that means I need to know about industries; I need to know about sectors;
I need to know about employers, right?
I also need to know about disciplines that are not just my own, right?
I'm a culture anthropologist, but I need to know some about the skill set
that other disciplines bring with them.
So that's one piece.
And then also in the coaching, I'm having to listen and hear how does this student think
about themselves and their skill set?
It's often that because you've been trained for seven; eight; nine; sometimes ten years
in your disciplined to get a PhD, you have been trained to understand and see yourself
as a scholar; as a professor; as a researcher; as a teacher; as a writer.
And if you're going into the non-profit sector, for example,
the non-profit sector isn't hiring you to be a teacher, to be a scholar, to be a researcher --
perhaps some level of research but nothing like what we do
in doctoral programs and masters-level programs.
And so my job as the career coach, as the career counselor, advisor,
is to really help this student, help this graduate student
or PhD to understand what skills they have that are transferrable, right?
And then also how to leave some of that negative thinking about what they wish they had done
in their degree, what they wish they could say about themselves when they go into an interview.
And so it's a lot of looking at not where you were,
but where is it that you want to go in your career?
And how can we reframe and reposition what you've learned and make it applicable
to the ideal employer that you're looking for?
And so there's a lot of listening that has to happen there.
And the coaching really comes in, in really helping my clients to feel like, one,
they've got incredible help, right?
That's really important.
I never want to tell someone who I don't think has the skill set to be where they would
like to be that it's going to be a one -- you know, you're going to easily just kind
of transition from where you were to where you are.
If there are things that have to be done to build up those skill sets,
I have to be able to tell that person that because that's --
it's true and it's what is going to work for them, right?
So as a coach it's that listening to where they are and where they want to be
and then helping them to develop the steps to get there.