>> Oh, I've always been an outdoors person.
So it really wasn't, I've always appreciate the biological process of, you know, I can see it.
I can put my hands on it.
I can watch a tree.
I can see a fish get bigger, you know, how they interact with each other, but,
and just get lost in your core classes and really find something
that you, that's not work for you.
I mean, something you can, that you enjoy learning
about something you like losing yourself in.