>> Started off in the carpet-cleaning industry when I was 18 or 19 years old.
That turned into -- because that's --
you have the equipment to do water damage when you do carpet cleaning.
So then you naturally go into restoration work.
A lot people that are in my industry started off in the carpet-cleaning industry.
And it was just because you have the truck-mounted equipment.
You have everything that it takes to do the restoration work when it comes to water damage.
And then obviously, like I explained earlier,
when you're doing the water damage, you find mold problems.
And then you have to address them [inaudible].
So my background basically starts from when I was 18 or 19 years old until now.