>> I love talking to my patients.
And the one thing that I've gotten good reviews about is really listening and talking
to my patient and addressing their issues.
And I really think that came from working in retail and working customer service
and in a grocery store when I was younger.
And being like one-on-one with the population that way and kind of listening to them
and learning how to communicate with people on a day-to-day basis.
I think that was really the foundation of how making optometry work for me as it is.
I think that's the biggest thing that helped me get to where I am today.