>> To be honest with you, for me, it -- I ended up falling into this career so at Penn State,
I was a marketing major and -- but I've always been I guess more or less technically inclined
in terms of, you know, I used to write software or write code, I should say,
play around with computers, break them and so on.
So when I was deciding what career I wanted to go into after college, I decided to interview
for only companies that were more, you know, tech driven.
So I was interviewing for MIS careers, even though I had a marketing degree so, you know,
for me, it was a slightly different journey than someone that might have graduated from marketing
and gone and taken a sales role at an organization and then decided
to make a -- let's say a mid-career change.
For me, from the beginning, even though I had a marketing degree, I knew what I wanted to do.
So for me, it was easier to just start the interview process and work with a company
that would have me doing some more technical things.
And that just, you know, eventually opened some doors in terms of working SAP
so during an internship that I had, I got exposed to SAP.
I was working for a company called Owens Corning in Toledo,
Ohio that eventually offered me a job to go back here.
Most of my family thought I was crazy for --
I'm from New York City and they were like what are you doing going to Toledo,
Ohio but it was one of the best decisions I ever made because it got me a deeper level
of engagement with the SAP software and I've just kind of taken it from there
where I've moved, you know, to, you know, a couple different companies, work with Deloitte,
then eventually SAP doing what I'm doing now on the sales side
but it's been a progression where, you know, you learn the basics of the software.
And then as you move along and you progress in your career, you identify opportunities
that gets you to do something different and more challenging, so.