>> To be open.
When I started at Site Works, which was a company that had 15 people,
it went from 15 people to 3 people in two years.
I stayed with it as 3 people.
I was the founder myself and an admin, and I kind of really dug deep to do that.
Five years later, we were 10 people again.
And three years later, I became partner at this company Streetsense,
and it's been a wonderfully journey.
So I learned every facility in the business because I stuck with it.
You obviously have to be smart.
You don't want to do something negative.
But I was able.
I was young.
So I was able to live a little bit frugal and at the same time get a huge education
in the entire industry and make some connections that today are invaluable.