>> Experiencing unknown realities during the process, by and large.
I mean, if I just kept on doing, let's say if I do something that's, say, very successful,
financially or, you know, as far as public acceptance, and I kept on repeating things,
I'd be falling into my own kind of design cliche.
So even though I might be successful as such, I'm not really learning anything from it.
For me, the art process is one of self-realization.
So for me, the greatest accomplishment is for me to understand the perceived realities
that I normally would not, and the process allows me to do that.
And so in one way, that's a, personally, that's the fundamental dialogue that an artist has.
Having said that, the complications with large-scale work, the greater the challenge,
the greater the satisfaction is, and that's more of a competitive, personal competitive thing.
Well, for me personally, there's not the problem, it's the interface with society.
Probably out of all of the disciplines, the art arena is the least understood.
There's a lot of romanticism people bring to it.
There's a lot of preconceptions people bring to it, and by and large,
the culture is not disciplined in the visual vocabulary.
I don't think an individual if they're going into surgery would tell the surgeon how
to do an operation, but they definitely feel that they can say that to the artist.
So it's really a lack of understanding of the profession, which is understandable, but.