>> What got me to where I was was really when I was here
at Temple I started doing internships with elected officials.
I had a professor who encouraged me to get some practical experience in politics.
So I worked on the campaign side and on the government side,
and then at a certain point I made the evolution
over to the government affairs side where I am now.
I did it for the Greater Philadelphia Chamber of Commerce.
That was kind of my first public affairs position.
I was at Merck and Company for five years doing government relations work for them.
I had my own business for five years prior to coming to Temple
where I was a contract lobbyist doing PR projects and whatnot for a variety of clients,
and I kind of look back, and I think all
of those things prepared me for the role that I'm in now.