>> It's kind of funny.
I started at Temple as a journalism major.
I really wanted to be a broadcast journalist, and I started the first two years
and didn't really know where I was going or like where I was going.
So I had a buddy who was a finance major and thought it sounded good and switched to finance,
and finance really helped me decide what I wanted to do long term.
There are a lot of great professors that helped me understand where I wanted to go.
So I started as a finance major, and then with the risk program that I mentioned,
a lot of major insurance carriers recruit at Temple.
So I was recruited to a company called CNA Insurance where I started my career.
Worked here in Philadelphia in their middle-market division for four years
and then went down in DC to help them open an office, and then came back to Philadelphia.
Always been a Philadelphia guy.
When I was down in DC, really decided that I wanted to make a mark in Philadelphia.
So I came back, continued to build a strong network and moved over to the broker side
of things where I'm more customer facing.