>> Well one thing when I was at Kansas State University in the Architecture Department,
I didn't know you could do lighting for a living.
As a matter of fact you weren't really exposed to that at least in the young '80s.
But we've got a good relationship with the Interior Design Department at Kansas State
so every year when they come to Dallas, they visit some different firms.
We're always one of them.
So they want to show the students there that just because you go into a traditional program
at Kansas State, whether it's architecture or interior design, there's spin offs to that.
So I happen to be in one of the spin offs.
And I do know that the Interior Design Department
at Kansas State has some minor emphasis on lighting now.
And I'm trying to cultivate that so expose the students to that aspect
of the career possibility instead of thinking I'm in anterior design
or I'm in architecture I'm going right to that as far as my career goes
because there's really a lot more out there
than just straight you know architecture, interior design, so.