>> So I went to St. Mary's College of Maryland in St. Mary's City, Southern Maryland.
And I actually majored in English and economics.
So I did not have any science background.
I really enjoyed environmental literature, which I sort of did an environmental studies focus
or concentration is what they call it at St. Mary's.
But that did not require any hard science courses.
So I graduated, and I traveled.
You know, I sort of just took a mediocre job as a government contractor,
saved up some money, and did some traveling.
And decided that I wanted, I really wanted to go into the environmental science field.
So I had to take a lot of post-baccalaureate classes, basically.
So like undergrad courses that were requirements for the master's program I wanted to do.
So I did that part time and worked for like 2 years just
to get the requirements I needed to do the master's program.
And then that was another 2 years.