>> I guess the final advice is, you used to be able to do this type of career,
you used to be able, it used to be like a trade.
You used to be able to work yourself up, like I did, through the ranks with hard work
and dedication and keep moving forward.
And finally reaching the pinnacle, which is,
you know a salaried job somewhere with health insurance.
You can't really do that anymore.
You really have to, now, go to college.
You really, now, have to focus on a specific place, lighting design,
sound design, something along those lines.
When I was at Columbia, all of their sound design was focused on recording,
the recording industry, recording records, recording CDs.
There wasn't much out there for live sound.
Now, everything is live sound.
And everything is going digital, so you can't, you can't stop learning.
You have to be a continuous learner in this process.
The big thing is, you know, I'm only 40 years old.
I started when I was 16.
When I started, it was reel-to-reel tape recorders.
That's how we played back all of our sound.
Then it went to cassette tapes.
Then it went to CDs.
Then it went to minidisc players.
And now we're at MP3s, MP4s.
Everything's being edited and played on a computer.
It's an amazing world, but the technology doesn't stop.
And if you stop learning, you're going to get just run over.
And nobody's going to end up using you anymore.
So you really have to just be a continuous learner in this job
or else you're not going to go very far in it.