>> I guess how I set myself up, I obviously wasn't an education major.
I was philosophy.
But for me, philosophy teaches you how to think outside the box
and how to develop coherent arguments for why you're doing something.
So I think that lends itself to anything.
What I did -- I also took education policy classes, so that I would understand implications
of policy decisions on education.
Um, and I also volunteered extensively.
I was a volunteer almost full time.
So I worked -- throughout my college career I worked with elementary school students.
I worked with middle school students.
And I also was a TA for college kids.
And taught a global diversity learning community of Villa Nova.
And I think that that just gave me a good view of what age group I'd like to work with.
It gave me a passion for education.
Because I realize that at any stage in your education there's more to learn
and there's more help that you can get.
Yeah I just -- I kind of shot out my resume, and I -- literally I looked at --
I was at my parent's house then and I looked at my mom and I said, "Well that's a long shot.
That'll never happen.
And I meant it.
I thought that it was such a -- because you know, what a name.
What a, you know, big organization.
And then, you know, I think that I was lucky to have really close ties with professors.
So I had really strong references.
And I had a strong resume.
And it -- you know, I happened to click with the people who interviewed me.
Which, I don't know, you can't prepare for that.
It just happened.
Which was a lucky thing.
So --
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