>> I hope I make it.
I'm up to ten lists.
We're going for 15 by the end of the year.
I don't know, but we got a long way.
>> You're working on it.
>> Yeah, yeah, baby steps, right, you know, but yeah.
>> Let's not shoot for the stars here.
Let's just [inaudible]
>> Feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars.
But that's the thing and now the art industry has changed so much
with radio and broadcasting in general.
You have computers that have taken a lot of jobs from people and you know one person can do shows
on multiple stations with little work.
And so, in a lot of ways, I won't say we're dinosaurs, but we're definitely artists
in a way too and you have to-- what we have found in the last five years especially,
that in the time that, you know, that facebook and now twitter has come along,
is you have to become-- you have to have more
than just one tool, you have to have a tool player.