-: Yeah, so if you're an undergraduate
and you're thinking about a career in higher ed,
particularly in career development,
you're eventually going to need to go to grad school.
I would encourage you though to try to get
into a career center right when you graduate.
Maybe an employer relations job or an operations-type job.
Just to get in the environment and make sure this
is something you want to invest in.
I'm a big believer in not investing in graduate school
until you're certain why you're going.
So then you're ready, you spend one or two years
in a Master's in higher ed, grad program.
Some schools have a career concentration, some don't.
It really doesn't matter,
but then you need to try your best to get experience
in a career center as a graduate student.
When we are hiring new career counselors,
we're looking for someone's who's already
got some experience.
Even if it's 10 or 20 hours a week in a career center.
You really need to think about what is the job
you wanna get after graduate school
and make sure you need that degree first of all.
And that you've already had an opportunity to determine
if this is something that you truly love,
this is something you're really interested in.
Because then you'll go to graduate school with purpose.
And you'll be thinking about the future while you're there.
You'll be creating the network of people
that you'll need to network with to get that job
after graduation.
Then, when you graduate, do a broad search.
Look at different kinds of schools.
Find the culture that you can do your best work in.
Yeah, I think it's important for when students
get into their first job and think about where they want
to go in their career
and look at the senior managers in that company.
What is their background?
And what are their skills?
And what are their degrees?
As I spent my first year in sales.
I realize that senior sales management
and certainly senior marketing, had MBAs.
They knew what a P and L statement was.
And particularly for me, they knew what marketing was
and how to do a break even analysis.
And all of the quantitative skills
that you learn in business school.