-: Man, Ball State seems like forever ago. (laughs)
It taught me just a lot about myself,
like I talked about earlier,
putting yourself in uncomfortable situations.
I probably didn't do that enough.
So looking back, being able to do that more,
but putting, being in different classes
where the teachers challenged you,
I think I wouldn't be as outgoing
and really big on relationships and who you know
if I didn't go to Ball State
and gain those relationships here
and be challenged in the classroom here.