-: Professional success for me is, like I said before,
if I'm not doin' what I need to do with the students,
if my students are not successful,
I could never be successful.
So, my job with the students
is to help them persist to graduation,
and when that happens, I'm successful.
When students drop out because of financial reasons,
and my job then is to see that they get back into education
and maybe work their way back to this university,
again, so they can persist to graduation, you know?
My degree of success
only gets higher with the students' success.
So, as students succeed at this university, I succeed.
You know, when they fail, I fail.