-: It's always, it's not mundane.
It's always a new attack vector,
there's always some new technology that you can learn about.
And mainly it's keeping the nation safe
from my perspective.
The nuances of
the attack vectors that adversaries use,
it gets more and more creative.
So it causes you to think, you try to think ahead of them,
right, because they only have to be right once.
We have to be right 100% of the time.
So it keeps it's fun, I mean it has it's moments
where you're like is this really worth it,
but it is very rewarding to outsmart those,
or not necessarily outsmart,
but put so many layers in their way,
that they give up and go on and do something else.
People, yeah, the people right.
The technology, you can figure that out,
but someone's not having a good day,
you have to assess that.
Should we give 'em this thing today,
maybe we can hold off.
Or there's a spearfishing email,
and someone says ooh, cats, and they click on it, right,
so it's the people (laughing) that make
the network security very challenging.