-: I am still trying to achieve success, I think.
In our field, being truly successful
is having excellent welfare for your animals
every single day, and that's tough because
welfare changes.
It's on a continuum.
It's not a constant thing.
And it could be dependent on things
that we have no control over.
It could be dependent on the weather,
on their enclosure mates, on a whole bunch of things.
But I think once we're truly successful
and we're like, "This is good.
"This is an excellent zoo,"
is when all of the animals are their wild selves
every single day of their lives
and they feel fulfilled and they feel
like they are confident in their areas.
So I think my success is just so dependent on my animals.