-: I am a non-trad.
I went to college when I was 18 like I was supposed to.
(laughing) And I just wasn't ready.
So then I had a family,
and eventually it came to the point
where I was working in human resources
and I was looking for advancement
and I wasn't getting looked at,
and I wasn't getting interviews.
And it was because I didn't have a degree.
So my recommendation is just get your degree.
When you're working in the work force,
if you don't have a degree,
there's only so far you can go.
There's, you know,
there's especially in the education environment,
they require people to have degrees.
So, and a lot of the industry
you can only go so far without a degree.