>> Initially it as just the creativity, you know?
It was being able to make something for somebody,
and then see the look on their face when they make it.
And that is a really, really powerful thing.
And I think that's what a lot of people really get into, because they have all this creativity,
but they may not be an artist, they may not know how to paint,
they may not know how to play a euphonium.
They may not know how to do these things, but they have a creative outlet,
and a lot of people find it through food.
And it's something you grow up with.
It's your family, you know?
So, for me, it was always about that personal interaction.
It was about seeing the look on somebody's face, and it's like, yes, like, I did it, you know?
But getting to be a sous chef now, I had no idea what I was in for, absolutely no idea.
And I just hit the ground running.
And one thing I've found over the past few years of doing it, now, I still enjoy the creativity
and the fact that somebody's eating my food, and the restaurant's food and they really,
really like it, but the mentoring aspect of it, for me, is actually more rewarding.
You know, I, if I spend time with somebody and I try to train them or just get them to the point
where I'm at, and I want them to be better than me, I kind of feed off that more.
And that's kind of what drives my passion now, the unknown.
You never know what's going to happen.
You don't know if, maybe, you're going to walk in and somebody left something out,
and everything's spoiled and you've got to start from scratch.
Maybe somebody doesn't show up.
Maybe half your crew shows up late.
Things don't always happen the way that they're supposed to.
And that's pretty much in every restaurant that you're ever going to go to.
You know, like things can happen really, really well, but something's bound to happen.
Like a lot of people talk about the kitchen gods, you know, you never really speak
about something that could happen, because the kitchen gods will hear you,
and it's going to happen.
You know? So it, it can be very, very difficulty, you know?
Like I said, the unknown, like you have no idea.