>> On the undergrad side, you know, it's--
we generally bring in folks who either have healthcare experience, so interestingly enough,
you know, there's an awful lot of people who try--
who want to become physicians or go to med school really and don't get in
and don't know what to do, right, but you-- they have a passion for healthcare.
That's-- that's a degree that in my mind is really nice to--
to build upon and layer technology.
In fact, frankly there's no one that's getting undergrad this day
and age that doesn't have a pretty decent technology experience.
So from an undergrad it's healthcare, it could be just general management degrees,
it could be technology degrees, programming engineers on the undergrad side.
On the graduate side, you know-- you know I just look for people have a very strong master's
in business type, you know, degree training, if you will.
I'm looking for people who, you know, literally if you put a glass in front
of them is it half full or half empty, right.
If-- do they look at that glass as half full.
You can't be in innovation and I won't hire someone
who their first response will be what's wrong and, you know, the sky is falling and, you know,
it's-- that's-- that's not the mentality I need.
I need someone who has excitement, energy, sees a--
something that's broken as an opportunity not something
to dwell upon and-- and you know be remorseful over.
For folks who want to move up, and I have these--
these mentoring discussions with my staff, you know, how do you--
you know, how do you advance yourself.
Let's say you're a business analyst and you want to become a manager.
Act in the role that you want to be, right.
So I-- if I want to promote someone from manager to director if they're acting
as a manager they're not going to generally get promoted, right.
I want people who-- to elevate themselves to that next role, take on more, put in extra time,
you know, act in the role that you want to be and it makes it a lot easier for someone like me
to promote them up because they're already acting as a director
when they're actually technically a manager.
So-- so act larger than your actual role.