>> You know, for lack of a better term, it's basically what we're doing
to actually change the world, and every company wants to say they're changing the world,
you know, but we've created something that is really special
because we're actually doing something that's making a difference, and for me personally,
I don't get -- I don't come to work to do, you know, timesheets
or to instruct anybody what to do or anything like that.
I just come in and just look at where we're at and then figure out: How do we continue to right
that wrong, you know, and that's basically it, I mean, as silly as it may sound,
but that could include many different things.
That could include some design work.
I still do a lot of the design, you know, and testing, and also, you know, there's, you know,
other elements like getting things out of the way for the employees, like I mentioned before,
and then also talking to potential customers.
You know, the biggest difference is, when you go to a job every day that pays either salary
or by the hour, generally speaking, those jobs have wins that you can quantify.
You know, you finish a job, you close it out, you invoice, whatever the case is,
whatever your job is, you have a win every day, you know, that you can say,
"I did that; we accomplished that."
It's a whole lot different in a company like this, that --
or this kind of thing that we're doing, that where we don't have a win
until we're done, which can take years, you know.
So every day we walk away, it's potential failure the next day, and it takes a lot.
It takes a lot of perspective, you know, keeping that perspective to keep going.
But that's why most folks don't keep going, because it's --
you never see a win in front of you, and the win is so long-term that, you know,
we all need wins, so it's just tough sometimes, but that's the biggest thing,
I would say, is that just never giving up.