>> I think I'm on the applied side of computing.
I like making algorithmic contribution.
Along the side, I also think about, okay, so what?
Why should anyone care about this work?
How could I make this relevant to other people?
And that's when you talk about application.
So bringing the bridge between algorithm to application is very satisfying because I can see
from an idea to an equation to a real application
where real people could use it, and that really makes me happy.
Well, I think every challenge is a new opportunity, so for the work that we do,
it's not just about computer science, but also about people, so it's very interdisciplinary.
You need to understand people.
That's when you need to draw disciplines from psychology, sometimes from [indiscernible].
So that makes it challenging, right?
So, because you need -- you cannot just say in your own field, but you got to go and talk
to people from the medical field sometime
because they might be the one who'll be using it.
Sometimes you may have to talk with teachers because they will be the one who'll be using it.
You need to convince them that this is -- this research is useful to them.
So making that connection could be a challenge, but as I said,
every challenge is a new opportunity.
So as I do those things, I learn a lot about how other people in other discipline work
and that gives me some perspective in my field as well.