>> As I mentioned, I was lucky enough to be
with the president scholars which was a great experience.
They've somewhat reduced the impact of the scholarship and how they're delving it out now.
But it was a great experience along with president ambassadors
with F. King Alexander when he was president here.
And basically the amount of opportunity the campus gave her involvement was
really rewarding.
And I think I developed a lot through that.
Not so much as strictly an engineer but as an individual.
I mean neither of those were focused on engineering.
It was about socializing and being active with the community
and dealing with others around you.
And I would think that, you know, and those are open for application
if you're at Cal State Long Beach.
I mean president ambassadors, every year they recruit.
So the opportunity to be involved with those freely and the availability to be involved
with programs such as that was really defining for the experience, yeah.