>> I remember coming to the creative elements center and asking if they had a yearbook.
And John [assumed spelling] -- I don't remember his last name -- was in charge of the yearbook.
And it was -- for a college this big, I expected, you know, a 400-paged yearbook.
It was, like -- I wanna say, like, 45 pages.
It was so tiny, barely any of the sports were involved.
People didn't even know that there was a yearbook.
Out of all the people graduating, there was maybe, you know, 200 seniors
or people graduating that had their picture taken and that was it.
And so for me it kind of was like, oh, this is a challenge, I need to try and be a part of it.
So I joined.
And the first year was kind of like -- for me -- the yearbook had already been going.
And so I just had to be a part of whatever they were doing at the time.
And then John [assumed spelling] ended up retiring and Cindy [assumed spelling] kind
of took over in hopes that I would join her as well as editor-in-chief.
And the first book we did was -- it was fine, it was, you know,
I would like to think a better improvement, but I don't know.
And I didn't really know Photoshop at the time, again, as well, so, like,
doing a lot of the detailed stuff was kind of difficult.
And all the programs were new on Mac
because everything was just changing platforms at the time.
But I have to say, just that entire experience, the three or four years that I did it,
and working closely in the creative elements center and from there meeting people
like Robert Garcia -- who is now mayor of Long Beach -- and so many other people,
I think allowed me to become more of a social person.
And college was really, I feel, where I blossomed into kind of who I am today,
and being that, you know, you can't wait around for something, you have to go get it.