>> I think seeing your stuff printed and knowing the fact that you know,
especially with Hallmark right now, some of the big accounts we worked on,
you know, Casino Royale was a big one.
We worked on Spider-Man Three, we worked on you know those big accounts and that's fine.
But it's so inundated with, so many hands were involved that by the time you finish a piece
of art, it's really not your art because so many people have had their input.
I really get, I really enjoy my round one comps I do for every project
because my portfolio just doesn't, it has a few finished pieces.
But it's really just my round one creative because it's really when you get let loose
to be, show us your thinking process.
Show us your comps.
Show us what you thought of and then it gets distilled
down to the typical stuff that you've seen.
But I think round one gives me the most gratification because it really is just you,
what you think of before anything is ever distilled.
Constantly pushing yourself to think of something new.
I think Hallmark has probably has been the most challenging client just because,
you have two people, where are they?
And especially doing, you know 19 movies for Christmas,
they have to be red and green and white.
Like you have to change all their clothes, all the scenery,
how do you make it different from the year before?
If there's a movie about baking and they've seen, you know,
three or four movies of baking, how do you change it?
And I think that's probably the hardest part.