>> I decided to take a random typography class, and I loved it.
I fell in love with it and changed my major.
And going through school -- I did yearbook in high school,
I ended up doing yearbook here as well.
Editor-in-chief for three years with Cindy Hale [assumed spelling].
And it was a great experience.
And when I went from wanting to get into graphic design -- graphic design is super impacted.
I would imagine that it's still really impacted today.
But I really loved doing art.
I wanted to be in art school, I wanted to do all this stuff but couldn't afford it.
And Cal State Long Beach is an amazing -- has one of the top-rated graphic design departments.
And I was like, I have to get in.
Unfortunately, I didn't have the skills at the time to --
and Photoshop and Illustrator were so new and it wasn't as common as it is today --
that I was in the computer lab daily trying to teach myself.
But some of these kids had had Photoshop and Illustrator forever and knew how to work it,
and I did just not have the skills for what I needed to do to get into the program,
so I was going to be put back another year.
Throughout the program, there was a TA that came in,
and he actually worked in L.A. at some big company.
And they said the company he was working for --
he was just freelancing -- they were looking for an intern.
And I said, well -- he's like, does anyone ever want to work on movies?
And I'm -- I want to work on movies.
Would wouldn't?
I just blossomed from there, like, learning so much in-house, learning the skills.
I started in production.
I was in production for two years.
And it was honestly one of the best experiences because I got to learn from the ground
up how to get to where you need to go.