>> I went to, you know the best college there is which is Penn State University.
With, I graduated with a finance degree from Penn State.
When, while working at Erie Insurance I was very fortunate
that they were willing to pay for my master's.
So I was living in Ohio at the time, so Penn State was kind of out at the point.
So I went to Case Western Reserve University for my MBA.
So when I first graduated from college it was nine months
after September 11th with a finance degree.
So not the best time to graduate with a finance degree.
So kind of scrambling to find a job.
I worked at a brokerage firm, so I was stock broker for 3 1/2 years.
When I first stated like I say job market wasn't very good, I was making 19,000 a year.
Which was hard even to pay off those student loans with.
But I got the experience and then Erie Insurance is the top place to work
in Erie PA, which is where I was living.
So once I was able to get the experience, get the licenses, I applied towards Erie
and that's why they hired me because of that experience and the licenses I was able to get.